2004

Saturday, December 11, 2004

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previous post I had to stop because my mother was practically rolled down the stairs. Never once listen to me, is not in the mood to do dangerous things like climb stairs, get hurt (as has in fact risked). I'm there, there's my father, asking costs nothing and we certainly do not say no. However, there were the funerals. The church was unusually full of people (oddly enough in the sense that older people usually have all the dead loved ones) kind of family friends. My father during some parts of the reading he looked at me and I know what those looks meant. They were a challenge to my disbelief. Scold me in silence.

Some of my uncles came to my surprise, I did not expect them sincerely. Are not related to my grandmother, and yet they came to my mother and me. Perhaps this family is not all that gear (although I assure you that the impression is very bad). Instead of burying / wall once they placed the coffin in the chapel of the beautiful cemetery, where he will stay until Monday morning. On weekends the carpenters do not work. Bah, there are all mad. Here we have Saturday, Sunday or Christmas that they bury the dead almost immediately. Other than this 'stay out' of time. Are frozen, it was so cold unbelievable. I think my cold is worse. Well, now I just want to distract me. Maybe I'll play Kingdom Hearts, or a little to see some episodes of Daa! Daa! Daa! an anime very 'nice & puccioso' I like for no reason ^ ^ '

See ya.

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keep the previous post because I am writing here?

honestly do not know. I never thought about using this lj as a real diary / blog / what the hell you want, but ultimately it is an idea that haunts me even though I already have a blog about a private space. Mah'm not in a state of mind able to think properly now.

My grandmother, the last rimastami, died at 13:00 yesterday after five years of suffering. It 'been a bit of a sollievvo and a bit of a surprise, since she left quickly after so much pain. We waited for this news for years now, but I do not think We never actually used to the idea. I hardly remember it before he became ill, but it was a good woman, nice and full of faith. A lot, a lot of faith and trust in God, the typical case that makes you ask "But is there really a God? And if so, it made her suffer like that?" When

yesterday, an hour after death, we arrived the hospital was still lying in bed. My mother just saw it was an understandable outburst of tears. I am nothing. As usual. Although I have not heard even suffer a tear. Do not think I'm cold, cruel or indifferent to these things as often people judge me. I have a very different way from normal to deal with the pain. Do not even try to retain - Out of pride or whatever you believe - the tears just came and no, I'm sure they are not. It 's just a replica of my grandmother's funeral the other, which occurred years ago when I was little. Even then I cried I was not crying.

There was a vigil yesterday, long and painful as the parade of relatives and friends (who, as usual, everyone seemed to know me, and I knew no one and my uncle and my cousins) from two till half past eight in the evening . This morning the same - even if I paused for a moment the hypocrisy of going to meet relatives at the home of my cousin to wake it up * _ * sadistic & cruel - from nine until now. Now just end up eating my go back to the morgue for another hour of wakefulness, and finally closing the coffin. The funeral will be held from 15:00 to 16:00, and then another hour or two in the company of relatives after we closed the tomb (near that of her husband). The

Friday, September 10, 2004

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The man who could not die, I'm under your spell

just slide your eyes on this room and the people gathered here to understand what it really is difficult. Read a face. Read a gesture. What can you tell me of each other? Less than imagined, Pilgrim, no matter how well you think you know. Everyone is a liar, one way or another, in varying degrees. No one can tell the truth about himself. It 's impossible.

From The man who could not morire di Timothy Findley

Wednesday, September 8, 2004

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Vivevo la mia vita nell'ombra
Mai il Sole sul mio volto
Non sembrava così male, comunque
Credevo che quello fosse il mio posto
Ora sono immerso nella luce
C'é qualcosa che non va

Sono sotto il tuo incantesimo
Altrimenti come potrebbe essere possibile
Che qualcuno mi noti?
É magia, ne sono sicuro

Come mi hai reso libero

Facendomi uscire fuori così facilmente
Conoscevo un mondo incantato

Spiriti ed incantesimi nell'aria

Ero sempre stato sicuro

Di essere l'unico lì

Ma il

your power shines brighter than any other I've ever known

I'm under your spell
There is nothing I can do

You just took away my soul with you You know

pronounce your spell

What I finally know all that dream was reality

You made me hope ...

Moon on Tide

I can feel it inside me

I'm under your spell hopelessly
Swaying like the sea

bound to you with no possibility of output

I leave aside all inhibition

Lost in ecstasy

Lying behind the willow my magic ...

make me feel complete ...

I'm Under Your Spell , music and lyrics by Joss Whedon, starring Amber Benson, Once More with Feeling from the episode of the show Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Joss Whedon)

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panssj @ 2004-09-08T18: 02:00

Each story, story or memory

Every saga or romance Whether true or invented
Whether that happens by chance or planned
that winds through centuries generations
Leaving behind a
O Hasty short fiction
A run of just half an hour
Whether joyful or melancholy Rough and ready
or finely chiseled
What has hundreds of actors
Or the loneliness of a single narrator
Every story, new or old

Farce or a work of art All are tales of men who fail
All love stories are rooted in the heart

Every Story Is A Love Story , music by Elton John, lyrics by Tim Rice, played by Sherie Rene Scott, from the musical Aida

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All Of My Life

Watching me watching you loving
The look of love I see in you
I can find when I look to deep in your eyes Reflections of me
.

All of My Life , music by Barbra Streisand, lyrics by Alan and Marilyn Bergman, played by Barbra Streisand from the film The Two Faces of Love (The Mirror has Two Faces, Barbra Streisand)

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Eternity

I knew we were
already destined to be together long before I knew your name
And the only thing I wanted
was a sign that he felt that you felt the same thing

somehow knew your every secret Just by looking into his eyes

From the first moment I met you
I already thought the rest of our lives

Just tell me ...

I will love you until the end of time Somehow
way two hearts have made a friend
time Eternity, eternity is on our side

I'm not afraid to say "forever"
You make me feel so safe
Because I know that will last forever And I
never experienced this feeling before Keep telling me ...

I will love you until the end of
time Somehow two hearts have made a friend of time Eternity
, I will love you for eternity Caught in the tide

It took me from you Now I know that
Dreams can come true

I will love you until the end of time
Somehow two hearts have made a friend of time Eternity
, eternity is on our side

Eternity, I will love you for eternity.

Eternity , music by Lex De Azevedo, text by David Zippel, played by Dreams Come True, the film The Swan (The Swan Princess, by Richard Rich)

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Sappho

E
this is my heart leap in his chest.
If you just see it, now I can not speak more
:
language breaks:
light a fire under my skin runs:
anything I see with the eyes and ears
me roar:
a cold sweat comes over me: a
tremor shakes me all over: more green
grass, and not far from being dead ... I feel

Sappho, fragment 31 Voight

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Can You Feel the Love Tonight

You can feel the love tonight?
The peace the evening brings with it
The world, for once, in perfect harmony With all its creatures

You can feel the love tonight?
do not need to look too far Stealing

between the uncertainties of the night Love is where they rest
this is enough to tramp endlessly
Only to be with you.

Can You Feel the Love Tonight , music by Elton John, lyrics by Tim Rice played by Sally Dworsky, Joseph Williams, from the movie The Lion King (The Lion King by Roger Allers and Rob Minkoff)

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A Love Before Time

Even if the sky opened above me And the mountains disappeared

Although seas dry up, turned into dust

Even if the sun refused to rise

still find my way

Through the light I see in your eyes

The world I know it can also disappear, but you'll stay When

Earth will claim his reward

And her cycle will begin again

We will live, always

In love we shared before Time

Although the years take away all the memories I have of you

still find the road that will lead me by your side

The North Star may even die

But the light that I see in your eyes still burn

Powered by the love that we shared before time

When the forest turns into

jade And the stories we have created will dissolve

One shining light will still

When we abandon our earthly skin And our

real life begins There will be no regret

But only the love we shared before time.

A Love Before Time , music by Jorge Calandrelli and Tan Dun, text by James Shamus, played by CoCo Lee, the film Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragons Ang Lee)

Tuesday, June 29, 2004

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Jacques Prevert - 5

Where I go, where I come

Where I go, where I come from,
Why are wet.
Come on, it is not difficult to understand.
's raining.
Rain is rain.
I walk in there - and then,
And then nothing.
Go your way
As I am for mine.
Why wallow in the mud?
Why I like it.
And the rain, rain makes me laugh.
I laugh at everything, everything, everything.
If you have tears in my pocket
E 'better than coming home,
It' better to weep for yourselves,
But let me be,
Leave me alone, leave me, leave me.
The sound of your voice I do not want to hear.
Go your way
As I am for mine.

The only man I loved was you who killed him,
out to club, to walk over ...
to give him the coup de grace.
I have seen his blood flow, flow in the gutter
,
in the gutter.

Go your way and I to mine.

The man I loved is dead, his head in mud.
Ah what can I hate you, hate you ...
is crazy ... is incredible.
And you are good, too good to me, and yes
believe me, too, too good.

Good ... good as the ammazzatopi with mice ...
but one day ... One day the little mouse will bite ...
Go, go your way,
good men ... men for good.

Jacques Prévert

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Jacques Prevert - 4

Now I grew

From vambino
I really enjoyed

laugh so much time laughing at all
and immediately after an overwhelming sadness and crimson
both simultaneously
Then I thought desperate
Instead I missed
only hope I had nothing but being alive and had intact

I was happy and I was sad but not

never pretended that I had nothing else to be alive

Shaking his head to say no
shake his head
not get us into the people's ideas
shake his head to say no
and smile instead of saying yes
yes to things and beings
beings look at things from caressing

to love or to be taken I was as I was leaving

without opinions in the head And if I need ideas to keep me company

I called them immediately and were
and I said yes to the most
beautiful and the others threw away Now I grew

but also ideas and great ideas are always good ideas

ideal
ideas and I always laugh in the face
but I expect them to take revenge

and eat that
day when I was too tired
corner of the woods But I'm waiting for the

and I'll cut your throat
will make him pass the appetite.

Jacques Prévert

Sunday, June 20, 2004

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Ettoreeeeeeeeeee ... .. indeed, Sandokaaaaaaaan !!!!!!!! - By Calima

So ... here's another one.
comments mean.

He did Calima.

Ettoreeeeeeeeeee ... .. indeed, Sandokaaaaaaaan !!!!!!!! - By Calima

not comment on the first few scenes, I was already laughing at the vision of the "map michelin" thinking on the screenplay of Pisa boy ... .. Ulysses from ... ..?? What a laugh, was always there at all ... toccheddare. Before Patroclus, when he put his hand on the shoulder and the boy has watched the series: And this old man here who wants to?? Puss Achille only way that I love!! My shoulder is it! "el'occhiataccia who threw Achilles? He almost burned there on the spot! then always there to hug and touch anyone .... Poor Sean !!!!! Ever that comes in between your hands to him, * * swords .... Anyway maybe it is true that Paris had three or four words, but Ulysses?? The same from beginning to end!! Always immersed in deep thought, maybe that's why always forgot to bring the weapons to fight back?? On the other hand Ajax, with the hammer of Thor, was too strong!! Valar, how I laughed when he came on stage!! He used the weapon like a machete! And that's portasfiga Tiresias?? Vabbhé, vied with Elena who pulled her more !!!!! Good heavens, woman! Of course some have described their arrival, eh?? I mean with that beautiful piece of her son if he was standing there .... Embraced with more passion than Paris Hector! Ok, Orli has had difficulty in the love scene because it actually looked rather scared and confused in the series "E mo I do?? VIIIIG?? Aiutoooo !!!!" But let's face it, not that she has helped a lot .... In short, the tunic was raised and remained there, waiting to jump on that! Anyway if the intention the director was to paint a goose jolly ... congratulations! It was really good, though I think the maturity I made the essay on the figure of Helen in the story ... .. but better not to think! In fact I have not thought about the poem, I went to the movies looking forward to a fun American movie and it was! Anyway I do not do precisely that part of the anti-anch0io Elena, in the end was good. But the "best" was Sandokaaaaaaan !!!!! Girls, not I told you he was there! I rolled off the chair when I saw it! With those wild eyes (in my opinion he used the same dealer Priam!) In the unfailing bandana head! Have you noticed that the type used helmet?? Only in battle! Maybe it was the titanium fiber! I own chances I send them out every time he entered the stage I used to sing Sandokaaaan sandokaaan! The dialogues, however, were hallucinating!! But who is the writer?? But the couple were not in my IDIOTS Paris / Helen, but Achilles / Briseis ... ... too stupid, and the speeches which were then .... Valar! The one scene between the two that I liked was the death of Achilles (who laugh Paris "Briseis Briseis ... go, we go ... there is a secret ... .. I almost expected it to jump up and say you know Achille where you stuffed it the secret passage?? *** Ecchec o!! let me die in peace!)
The scene of the investiture simultaneous Achilles / Hector was beautiful, very dramatic, is not it?? For the fighting ... well choreographed by Garrison are always fun and fascinating, in a sense! The soundtrack in the scenes of battles, however, was the same as Black Hawk Down! Beautiful
Pariduzzo loved one when the arch bracing!! There I saw Lego back in action! Aléééééééé are Zompa chair shouting (softly) Leeeegooo go, go leeeegooo!! What a laugh !!!!! Anyway jokes aside, when you had Orli in the hands of the arch has become, finally pulled out all his temper and seemed to have taken over the situation! But Orli was good (and I say this because I love it!: P) think about the character of Paris, was a coward, was one who thought only women ... and entertainment. Of all the things he could choose from the gifts of the goddesses was taken Elena! (Pretty bad luck!) Then complimentissimi to edges, because it took courage to accept a role as well. And most of all to shoot the scene of the fight against Menelaus then when it attaches to the leg of Hector, what a shame! But it was really good, I mean, that whole situation has made it perfectly, think about it. The scene of Achilles under the walls, which calls Ettoreeeeeee. ... Legendary! I was there with my friend who screamed Ulkoooreeeeeeee !!!!! Pitt made me die when Priam went to ask the body of Hector, I know that the scene was dramatic and that I should not laugh, but it was so funny faces!! He looked like a child when scolded and knows that he made a mistake! Great Pitt!
Hector and Paris were the real couple of the movie!! Come on, "do you love me ?.... brother fight all the enemies to me? ... I show you something ..." and all the hugs and kisses that mollave the big brother?? Wow, Paris embraced more Ettore passion that Helen! And he must be liked, seen as she went to Cannes. ... : PPP!! Cele is right, the two slashabilissimi! Besides, I just saw them well, in fact there really was love in those eyes ... but I do not think Orli linciatemi not remained indifferent to the charm of Eric (I love Viggo, but the silence about them, is not too weird?)
"when you're there you'll have only your sword and he his sword, you think only your sword and his sword!" Ale?!? The celebration of the double meaning ... that laugh that joke! Ok here even if I close I certainly forgot a lot of things ... one more ... I can not wait going to see him with my sister!

Saturday, June 19, 2004

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Troy - by Necchan

not believe that there would be other posts, but this was really that I should include it.
E 'was

necchan to give me permission to link to your comment
I invite you to read it because it's really beautiful.

Today we decided to turn this into a place where Lj review "our" film. I will let you know ...

Sunday, June 6, 2004

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I saw troy ... - Remarks by shatzy_shell

I think this will be the last post on Lj Troy: we will see what to do, maybe you will transform him / processors in the films that have a Lj drawn, in one way or another for our attention, we'll see ....
As

shatzy_shell , which, incidentally remains my favorite webmistress, has given me permission to link to the comment that he posted in his LJ, here to you.

I am particularly pleased because it is essentially a positive comment and I was still glad to accommodate everyone's comments.

If you want to read it here .. I saw troy ... - By shatzy_shell

Thank you for rice, written and posted with me.

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Troy - by Celebel

After the test, he told me not to have created her ... Cele gave me permission to post your comment.

Here it is ...

Comment by Troy Celebel

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the wrath that brought upon endless disappointment to the fans (the poem !!)...

words: my comment on Troy!

Before I have a proposal: do a collection for Petersen to give a copy of the Iliad?

Because here are two things: either he did not just read, has agreed to tell the story from someone who knew more or less and then he made what he liked best by changing the pieces that nn convinced him ... or read it in greek, original version, without knowing the greek!

Oh, another option would be: read the Iliad, and decided to "fix here and there" in order to get Orlando Bloom and Brad Pitt at the end of the film (which has proved useful to after all ... especially since the ending is a death, at least let me redo my eyes!), scare away half of the Trojans (why else was too sad, no? The public wants the happy ending!), leave the poor Patroclus in the corner to get the saws as Cupid / Petersen wrong target and hit Briseis instead of Patroclus.

It starts with Agamemnon who wants to conquer the world, and Achilles, rising up with two hours late (but then, is Brad Pitt ... the stars always arrive late ¬ ¬), looks around bored, and a move removes a sample of Thessaly. Ok, the film must go on is a scene to introduce the characters, and let you know that Agamemnon is a Bush in the old days, the only thing he has in mind is Achilles throm # # # and, and that has Thessaly soldiers that are worthwhile.

Scene of the ship: I here childbirth Slash Paris and Hector. ^ ^

Arrival in Troy as any sane person would do, Priam does not think for one second that Miss Helen could lead to war and Menelaus then all the other rulers of the Greek cities (all of this turn of phrase to point out to Petersen that Greece is not the "homeland", the concept of homeland was born centuries later! And this is history, not literature). It instead shows very worried because he does not know whether to call Helen of Sparta and Troy.

Achilles in his little house: then, I'm not pretending you got to see Achilles and Patroclus in bed together. This was known that they would not have done before (you could only hope! *.*). But just leave everything in that semi-darkness: they know and do not you know you love it, but nn is never specifically told you can understand. But no! But we are mad? Achille gay? Let it never be! But Patroclus just can not be eliminated, otherwise the wrath of Achilles as it is based? And then ... let's become a family ... a cousin! Yes, of course! And to remove any doubt that they are together insinuiamo father to face Achilles Patroclus. That * something * to teach him, that's for sure ... * What is the nn * and I agree!

Achilles and Thetis: then, Thetis is a nymph, the nymphs are beautiful and moooooooolto young, little girls ..... ok, that was the mother of Achilles, but keep in mind that it is a goddess and that does not age, please!

come the Greeks, and I have a question for Achilles: What about # # or you brought it to you to do, Patroclus, so that then you do not fight (neither without nor with double meanings, and nn know what is worse ^^"). Perhaps, Achilles, who has the gift of foresight (and of course: a technical fight with Roman!) had provided the death of Patroclus only the night before, when they were already en route, and try to save it.
Anyway is captured the priestess of Apollo ... No, Cassandra, her, having foreseen that the film was a # # a cag, refused to participate. And what could be done Petersen, at this point? Only one thing: to make vows to Briseis (chaste and pure girl, who is very determined to remain a virgin, as we shall see later!). So catch her!

The night before the battle: the night where no one sleeps. That is, after a full day of fighting, it seems obvious that if Hector will go around the city looking for Paris. And then he wants Helen to the Greeks to surrender to end the war, when she has just said that Paris would win even if it would not help against Menelaus, Agamemnon because there is not for the honor of his brother. Consistency first!

against Menelaus Paris: 1 to 0 for Hector! no, I was wrong to write: the battle between Paris and Menelaus won the Hector, as he is to kill Menelaus. Too bad that Menelaus had to stay alive!

Paris is part of the city: why do not greet him for the next hour we will see the movie! In his absence, nothing else to do than drugs of popcorn, not to strangle the guy sitting next to us (which has neither pain nor guilt nn!).

Patroclus and armor: Patroclus, as if no line, really wants to commit suicide! Obviously not ask for permission to Achilles to take his weapons * *... but does all his own way. Achilles with Briseis is too busy to notice that someone is antrato in his attempt and took the armor ... soldier who always alert, eh! ¬ ¬

The funeral of Patroclus: there were games and contests with lots of naked men who fight and challenge each other ... but since time is short (since the Trojan War, Petersen does not last even a >.\u0026lt;), months are deleted.

Ettoreeeeeeeeeeeeee!: That is, the joke better than the movie! ^ ^ "Anyway
Achilles and Hector Hector is killed fighting ... ... Achilles is NOT the three rounds of the walls of Troy with the vadavero Ettoruccio tied to the cart and goes directly to the camp.

Priam and Achilles, the Hector's body: beautiful! This scene is really nice! I liked it! I mean, let's just say No negative things .... there are also beautiful ...... ...... see mhhh. Orlando ........ half-naked, for example ^ ^

Priam back in town, and after a beautiful scene, a beautiful ca ata # #! We wanted, no? otherwise we get used too well ... must prepare for the final! ¬ ¬
Briseis, Achilles' slave, left the tent and hugs his uncle (who was not to be his uncle, but leave out ...). Achilles leaves the Merciful return to the city, and she returns to Troy with a broken heart, Cause I want to leave Achilles. >. \u0026lt;

The Trojan Horse: Odysseus (Sean great! *.*) Has the idea of the horse and the building. So far so good, even if they could give a little 'more room for Ulysses, since it is he who fixes things! >. \u0026lt;

The discovery of the horse 12 days after the funeral for Hector, the Trojans discovered that the Greeks are gone, go to the beach (obviously should not be the first soldiers to control, it goes directly to the King with the Prince! >. \u0026lt;Very normal!). Paris, where the equestrian statues do not like (maybe you prefer a dog? ^ ^), Is proposing to burn it. It would be so tacky ... odds with the architecture of the city ...
Nobody listens to him (although I half expected it really burned! ^^"), And bring it in (note: the walls are not destroyed until it enters the city!>. \u0026lt;) Between the parties and singing.

The fateful night: the horse will open e. ................. (sedetevi! !).......... ACHILLE out, which should be dead, but since there was no time to do it die, let's go to Troy, no? What does
quetso idiot instead of fighting? Search Briseis throughout the city, of course. But
nn is the only one, as even Paris is looking for. Oh yeah, because mica Paris dies! Andromache takes her son, calls half Troy (including Helen, Paris and .... it is called, I was trying, no matter! Cmq other people), and is preparing to run for a passage that had shown Hector.
but he realizes that there is Briseis, and Paris (which, you know, is a hero >.\u0026lt;), back to save her. But why carry around a sword? no, better to leave a. .. "What's your name?" "Aeneas" Ah, yes, that's who it was! Enea! The great warrior, prince of Troy, who according to the Aeneid Rome merge after passing a thousand obstacles ..... The great warrior, prince of Troy, who according to the Aeneid Rome merge after passing a thousand obstacles ????? But this one is a rgazzino of 18 years at most, sfigatissimo, which seems to have never seen a sword in his life, and that is NOT the cousin of Paris, since you do not know.
enea, cmq, it shows quite surprised when Paris of Troy, entrusted him with the sword, and you believe it! From the Penati, we went to the sword ... would remain so -> o___O anyone!
Anyway, Paris the hero goes looking for Briseis, which has become captured by Agamemnon But killing him, and then comes Achilles and hug (no, it is Beautiful ...... unfortunately) but here is Paris which takes the arc e. ........... aims wrong! Hits the heel of Achilles. Then take better aim, draws to itself the power to Legolas, and hit him three times in the chest.
Achilles is about to die, it is not clear whether the heel or other wounds, but not dwell on the details! ¬ ¬ And then
heartbreaking scene where he says goodbye to Briseis and tells her to save themselves, to follow Paris and blablabla. Romantic (pity that Achilles was a warrior, not a lover ... that Pitt and Orlando have exchanged the script ?)... pity that Paris repeats every three seconds "Briseis, we must go. Briseis, Move it! Briseis? Briseis? Briseis strength! "

End: cmq, the film ends with the funeral of Achilles (well, I might say that we at least in this: the Iliad ends with the funeral of Hector were sin !)... leave the credits ... no, wait .... there's first an inscription: "taken from the Iliad of Homer" ... has made the joke! nice that the director!

And a journalist has the courage to write "but it is possible that in 2004 we should still be talking about fidelity or otherwise of the poem of Homer's Troy?"
Well, I reply yes. because it is culture, because it is a beautiful story , so does anger and see it ruined. because if he made a film about the Trojan War as seen from Petersen, "then that was fine, apart from some mistakes of history and geography ... but not so. not good.
Anyway it is true, you're not arguing. is a fact: Petersen, read the Iliad!

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Disappointment ... - By Patty

place with so much delay Patty's comment: sorry but I had very little time ....

Disappointment by Patty

This movie you can see!!
I am monstrously biased, because I love the Iliad so do a mess like this can not remain indifferent, But there is a limit to everything ...
And I have had to put up twice in two days and I swear that in the end, today, I wanted to escape from the room (ask ...). Faith
But beyond the film is precisely and especially Rims that I was very disappointed: he wants to be passionate (as in the beginning, and in the interview with one of the celebrated sword ... Priam of Troy, so to speak) and can only be ridiculous ... sorry but makes those faces absurd ...
Truly a disappointment ... in PotC was not so much that ... I doubt that it was ignorant of that idiot director who wanted to act in that way ... Throughout the film has an expression that does not even know how to define ... Perhaps the only scene "beautiful" is that the duel with Menelaus ...
of Patroclus then I do not even speak ... He was a warrior through and through as well as the lover of Achilles, and I turned it into a little boy also pretty stupid that the only thing he can do is whine because they do not fight ... Same with potatoes
Aeneas compliments Mr. Petersen: After Homer has managed to turn in his grave ... well dear Virgil

The only positive surprise of the film for me was Eric Bana: I continue to put up very little, but I changed my mind. It 'also true that it is easy to look good playing as Hector, and it is also true that he, too, as to the exact expression is not the ne plus ultra, but I entered the room convinced him that that role had been assigned a blasphemy, and I came out thinking that the end was the least bad decision that he made the sympathetic director.

instead of Brad Pitt is not much to say, he did what you did that little bee ...
Of course if anyone wonders why newspapers incensino only he and the rest of the cast, we can proceed to count the number of minutes that Brad is on stage than the other ... I would say that is more than legitimate to consider the undisputed protagonist of the story ...

last note, but what was cool with Sean Bean and curly beard ...

I hope that nobody will take it for what it I said (particularly with regard to rims), but believe me, I managed to express only half of the disappointment that this film gave me.
I knew I was going to see an American, and I knew it was useless to expect that the Americans knew the Iliad, but it really went well beyond my darkest expectations .. The only thing that really impressed me were the scenes: Troy was really beautiful.

Ok, now I'm ready to lynch ...

Sorry,
Patty.

Thursday, June 3, 2004

Good Things To Write On A Wedding Card

Troy: What a disappointment ...!!! by - ElfLady

Below is the comment of ElfLady.

the way, if anyone knows how to descend from his horse ... accepted more ... ;-)

Troy: What a Disappointment ...!!!

Arrive a little late to comment on "Troy ".............. Total disappointment!
the film is absolutely not what I expected.
Petersen has upset the whole original story, cut pieces (too many!), Made the characters unwatchable and unlistenable!
The battle scenes are not so bad, some, however, too fast and chaotic.
The soundtrack, though, I loved it and I finally found out that was made by J. Horner, who won an Oscar x that of "Titanic."
Anyway ..... outrageous! Proceed x points:

gods where ??????

And the back-stories of the three main characters??

But is there any hero?

Pitt was really able to interpret Achilles? And above all, but Achilles trumpet **** so much?? I do not know if you noticed that happened when he arrives in Troy ........ rather than fight, the pinci! ___

And Paris, who does? And Elena? And Priam?? And Menelaus dies before their time??

and Patroclus? What becomes a lover cousin?

Pitt was not anything special, like Bean, O'Toole (Priam a somewhat Imbalzano ....) and Bloom. Qty of the Paris version is just a poor coward, who thinks only of going to bed with Helen.
The only one who is saved is Hector (Eric Bana and). The only decent character, which is closest to the heroic figures in QTI types of films.
The only one who has changed facial expression.

No. I have not been met. "(...) There

Immortality! Go! And 'your'!
These are the words he uses Achilles x urge their men to sin Petersen will not find a place in eternity with this flop. A reinterpretation
went wrong.
Kisses
Elf Lady

PS: and Aeneas?? No, say you have seen the face of what?? Other RINCO ......... =______=

PPS: I forgot! Have you seen the scene when Paris and Hector fall from a horse?? (QDO Paris faces Menelaus)
Have you seen that go down together, simultaneously and with the same leg ??????
Come on! What cag ******!!!! By way of Blues Brothers !!!!!

How Old Do You Have To Be To Work At An Auto Shop

Troy .. I've finally seen me ^_^;; - by WhiteFairy

And this is the opinion of WhiteFairy.

Per favore, se venite a sapere il nome dell'attore che interpreta "il braccio destro" di Achille, il mirmidone dagli occhi azzurrissimi potete dircelo??
Grazie mille.

Vi lasciamo al commento.

Troy.. finalmente l'ho visto anche io ^_^;;"

Che dire... temevo molto peggio... ;-)
Tutto sommato mi e' anche piaciuto, dai...
E' vero, la storia e' piuttosto diversa dall'originale.. pazienza, si puo' anche sopportare (dopo aver sopportato la morte di Haldir in TTT posso vedere qualsiasi cosa ^^')..

Direi che il difetto Main throughout the film and 'directed and that' s a bit lacking in all ... even in the filming of the city 'and especially of the battles that are reduced to clusters of arrows shot and a sword here and there' in the casino.

But what 'every now and then I had some stunned faces, attitudes that I saw ...

Priam, constantly haunted ... Now I know why 'were saying that it was cocaine ... ^ ^;;
probably on the set was very windy and when it drew a bit 'of powder ended up on him to Orlando for a few hours turned with the hallucinated face too ...

IMHO you're a bit 'bad with Orli, it' s true that sometimes makes funny faces, but also good read ... top I was burnt out by how he looked elena .. * Sbav *.
Let's say you ruined when he said those words when
absurd to elena and speaks with his father, the rest has that attitude and dreamy child boy, little prince, who lives in a dream world ... deserving idiotic and irresponsible ... and this provides a little face 'an idiot.
^ ^ 'But the boy did well also terrified of Menelaus and frightened for the fate of his brother. For Achilles

I agree with you, pretty face .. Patat but dazed, too bad 'cause the character had been trying to build at least a little ... a bit 'expressive' would help ^ ^;;

Strafiko Hector! Great Eric Bana, a myth! I became his fan ^ ^ awesome

the moment when Aeneas meets ... how to give the sword to the first to go ... (You know ... the race is descended from a Roman whatever? ^ _-) Then

.. what else can I say ...

Elena and 'really beautiful and also an actress and I' liked, but 'as a character and' quite absurd ... all the time to complain about the war ... running away as if he had not known what caused ... : P
piteous scene in which Hector and the firm wants to escape with a few sentences and convinces her to stay ...

Wednesday, June 2, 2004

Red Bumps When You Grow A Beard

Test: Troy or Homer - by Celebel

Hello.
Celebel posted a test and allowed me to put it ...

Good fun. ;-)

THE TEST: Troy or Homer?

comes to film Troy, the new "masterpiece" by Wolfgang Petersen. Filmon or prefer classic Homer? Another slope to the aftermath.

To you, Menelaus, King of Sparta, scrub the chick who had taken a wife. In addition, the author of a rat was a little boy 'effeminate. What do you do?

Now we turn to the Trojans. You've just blown a sventolona named Elena to a Kraut named Menelaus, drunk to death. What do you do?
Menelaus sends a significant number of men to besiege Troy ...

Ah, evil is put: the town is impregnable. Leading the city of the Achaeans Hector is the son of Priam, a valiant fighter and General of young marmots. What bet?

Obviously, the city of Troy fell, and some people had expected (and has won five times the bet.). What is Elena?

majority of responses A. A Selfless
you do not care much either the film or of Homer. Let's just say that Homer could also save this old drama, especially since the gods do not believe any more. Better than the Power Rangers, Pokemon and Limp Bizkit. Watch out for the health ailments. Excellent agreement with Gemini and Cancer. Majority of responses

B. SON OF TROY
Thank goodness that the original title of the film (sons of Troy, in fact) has not been translated. Adore the beautiful muscolacci Brad Pitt, his expression dazed when he kills Hector and the severed heads here and there in the battlefield ... Do not you care of the correspondence related to the Homeric poems, in fact, believe that Helen of Troy is the lucciolona that frequents the bar. Perfectly integrated into the system, you have not noticed that the Trojan horse in the film was a Matryoshka. Majority of responses

C. SCANDALISED
quick brown fox the wrath of Achilles son of Peleus, that brought upon the Achaeans countless deaths. Finally! Someone will come to this profile? I do not doubt it. Needless to say, as Homer has been important in your life. The film is a pure hobby, and you know that has absolutely nothing to do with the great classic era gone by. Too bad that the younger generation do not know ...

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My comment at Troy - by Florinda

immediately apologize to ask Flo to post your comment with so much delay ... I can only blame it on the job and the fact that I had downloaded his e-mail on your laptop.

I will leave you to your comment ...

My comment at Troy - by Florinda

Since I have already read some comments ... I also ^ _-

I do not remember the few things that I studied Homer, if not a little bit, so it was hard to watch the movie without thinking of original story .... did not look bad, indeed, not concern him willingly !!^_^

But now we see a moment .... the actors here, Pitt, for example, I never liked it but. Inquest ... .. ilm iiiihhhh ..!!*___*

SEXY in addition to being an absurd manner, and have been shown to have a body from the crash .... is good! Perhaps ... a blank Pokett ...^_^""... but I liked it very much like Achilles!

Patroclus is wonderful, a face of an angel, straight blond hair on the face, so young, so sweet ... but, I repeat it ad nauseum, cutting about their relationship made me pissed off but .... so, cabbage!

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Since I have already read some comments .. . calving me too ^ _-

I do not remember the few things that I studied Homer, if not a little bit, so it was hard to watch the movie without thinking of the original story .... did not look bad, Indeed, the concern willingly !!^_^

But now we see a moment here .... actors, Pitt, for example, I never liked it but .... .. ilm Inquest iiiihhhh ..! *___*

addition to being SEXY in an absurd manner, and have been shown to have a body to crash .... is good! Perhaps ... a blank Pokett ...^_^""... but I liked it very much like Achilles! !

Patroclus is wonderful, a face of an angel, straight blond hair on the face, so young, so sweet ... but, I repeat it ad nauseum, cutting about their relationship made me angry ... . but so, cabbage !!!\u0026lt;__\u0026lt;

Especially because qnd Achilles by fire, according to the rituals, the body of the young lover, frame a bit 'him, a little' Hector watching her baby sleep in the cradle ... as to imply that the pr relationship Achilles / Patroclus was a father / son relationship, which also start from a very charming and cheerful edges, turning to Patroclus, says: "I knew your parents [...] is now in the great Achilles person who grows, eh! "(something like this .... ^^"") irrita.Soprattutto because then I have transformed the relationship Achilles / Briseide..facendo become, at times, a character Achilles AMA positive .... the girl ... but when ever !!... vabbuò.

Beyond these criticisms, the Achilles pesonaggio I liked the same .. a bit 'wild, a little' essay, a bit unconventional ... ' hero;)

Hector is a character that has haunted me, really, a character in the round!

A great mind and a big heart, nothing but great warmonger in the field, with a wide view of woman as a person, his relationship with his wife is deep and he managed to hit me emotionally to ..... half the film I said to myself "if I die here Ettore am heartbroken, but not so die paride,,, of course, being half the film without its little face from stump * * is a disappointment, but the character is slimy."
Why is
proprio.Paride.Sarei went there, when they remained attached to the legs of his brother, I would pulled by the hair, put on pedi, and I spat in his face.

him, and Helen, the couple "Idiot" era. Valar, unbearable!!

fact, there are upset for my Orlandino, sob! ...

of them said a right thing, qnd offers adventure to burn the horse, and everyway he says without reason, so it might just be that he felt like making a bonfire ...-__-"

and then, when Achilles kills me ... I imagined the scene throughout the film, and I came out a fumettino where he, with lunguetta out for the merger was aimed at heart and by accident, pecking at the Achilles heel fell to the ground ... with a * tuc * deaf and Orli / Paris smiled scratching his head whispering "Ups !".... it was not just that, but if one did not know that the Achilles' heel is its weak point would believe that he died for all arrows arrivategli Briseis in the chest .... and then yelling "NO, do not do Paris!" and his body. "Paris, no!" And another arrow. "Paris, enough, fermatiii" screaming, crying ... and he does not hear.

and alloera but you're just shit, figliolo.E while the two are there, holding her head almost-dead, and they kiss, hug, what does he do?

"Briseis, hurry up, we to go. "

their crying, desperate, kiss, etc ...

"Briseis, we must go."

"Briseis, Briseis?"

"Briseis hurry."

"Briseis, are you there?"

"Briseis you move?" ;

Paris, the finish of the fucking crap at inopportune moments ???!!!

Orlando .... poor ...

the end, congratulations, it was probably difficult to play a character so stupid and so ... so ....

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More than anything he could to avoid doing, the assurance of Legolas ... ihihi! (Aching brows slightly surprised expression and then ... it's Legolas! O_o) and ELENA

?? Aaaaaargh!

"Oh, come."

"Oh, war."

"Oh, my fault."

"Oh, they came for me."

" Oh, Paris will die. "

" Oh, but I love him so much. "

" Oh, it's going to fire. "

" Oh, run away. "

.......' azz ...-___-....

beyond the fact that she loved Paris in the movie ... but in reality, poor deluded, she would not have shit any way, except for a hand of the gods .... but here is an actress .... .. yes, very beautiful, but also Bravin ... the character, valar, is tiring .....

as I said, 'These two are a pretty pair.
and say that they die because the greatest .... bah. = _ =

hmmm ... who's missing?

Oh, Priam ^ _ ^

good actor, I liked it .... commoventissima the scene where he goes into the tent of Achilles to claim the body, really.

see Pitt and cry is not an everyday thing, it's a beautiful scene.

Sean in the role of Ulysses, I have already said, was good: do not see much, or cmq has great influence on the scene, but fails, with a few words to create a character curioso.Ironico, charming, clever.

Sorry for the long email ... I did not mean to bore you so much ...^_^""... cmq even though I wrote some things that might cause you to not watch the movie ... it's all the incontrario of what I wanted to convey .. watch it!

And I recommend it .... watch out for double meanings, there are a lot of swords *, to die!

"This is the sword of Troy .... go and get honor! "

" You just think about his and your sword! "

... I'll stop, I'll stop ...

however admit I laughed for almost the entire duration of the film .... but at some points I rub my eyes ... well, it's worth enjoy them to the movies, and rest assured that you're in a non-trivial American blockbuster and tiring ....;)

Baciu,
flo

PS The music is beautiful !!!^____________^

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Sunday, May 30, 2004

Ho Scale Paper Us Homes

What do you think of "Troy" - by Lady Nind

I was allowed to post here your comment

lady_ninde and you can also find in his Lj.

Lady Nind wrote the comment in two parts: I preferred to keep this setting and create a single update. If you allow me a suggestion: read them in order ...

What do you think of Troy - Part I
Small review benevolent
So in the end I went too. To see "Troy", I mean. And, despite having fever and horns bed before you go, I have endeavored in every way - I swear - to keep the mind free from prejudice, to take film for what it was and not what I wanted it to be, to be open and willing to appreciate how good the director may have been put there, although they plunder of the rest.

But there are successful: I confess I have failed.

I do not know if it's because despite everything I'm not really been able to ignore the things I knew, and which now belong to my training and the way I feel. Maybe, instead, to one that Homer knows nothing of this film will be liked. As the girl sitting next to me that during the duel between Achilles and Hector was rooting for Hector, and her boyfriend that foretold the latter's death, said turning annoyed: "And do you know?" (I must say that this was a fun interlude, in full climax of the film).
Yes, I'd like to know the opinion of someone who went there with my mind very clear.
However, I for my part, I propose to found the movement, 'Take the camera with Wolfgang Petersen and I have already started collecting signatures. For him and for all those who, like him, make meatballs everything that has a shred of dignity and tradition to invent absurd melodrama incellofanati without rhyme or reason, and which by the way are all equal in their desperate idiocy. We want to talk about Nero maybe the film aired last week on Rai? And of Augusto on its predecessor, and all the worthless crap in the one and the other is stuffed? But no, it's just "Troy," but let us once and for all: NO MORE! Give horseracing and leave the EPICA (is also the story), WHICH ARE NOT FOR YOU!

I do not know where to begin, there are so many vegetables that I would pull him that this rascal massacred in two hours and forty minutes 2800 years of meaningful discourse. I agree with almost everything that has already written

ewyn on his LJ, but unfortunately I can not comply with his fine irony. Not completely, at least, because this time are a bit 'too angry, and the beauty is that as time goes on less and pass me the anger.

Not to mention the destruction of Iliad, Odyssey and Aeneid? But yes, however, digress a bit 'of time, just to contextualize. Then step the most important issues.
I try to go in order, starting with small things seem less substantial, but I think also of the hidden meanings.

First of all, the choice of the interpreter for the character of Achilles. Before the only surmising, I can now say with good reason, but what the hell has to do with Brad Pitt Achilles son of Peleus? Yes, yes, okay, good ... you've gone so many hours in the gym, you you're busy and you put on a great physical compliments. But what about that nose to the French remains the same as for the biceps did not grow, and on that mountain of muscle (stand included) as there is a mustache on the Mona Lisa? And luckily for the director in that role we only saw him and was even "terrified" by the idea that Pitt refused! I personally I would have seen everyone except him. But oh well, maybe this is a matter of taste. But it is not so much the nose is the expression, facial expression ... It will be a detail of the actor's face, but the fact is: It is important that the protagonist in a blockbuster is cut for the role? Or rather, what kind Achilles Petersen had in mind if he does do a Brad Pitt?

Is it true what they said and I want to say too, but those who came first to the idea of making an idiot cousin Patroclus to Achilles? Of course, do not pretend that saying openly that it was his comrade, I understand that it would take a lot of courage and otherwise, given our mentality, it would have seemed much less normal than it seemed to the Greeks, and was liable to make "Troy" in a sort of gay pride in second-passing all other matters, and it was not the case. But still, you could not invent something better, maybe just fade, as does the rest of Homer, and speaking perhaps a dear friend, a faithful companion and so on.? And avoid turning Patroclus, who was a valiant warrior, a fledgling greenhorn adopted by Achilles (is also in bad faith, among other things, all this shame, because the "cousin" then seems to Boy George, and then the gay speculation, if they do not make the audience, certainly the director has made them, it is to swear). And since we are not in the Iliad Patroclus wears Achilles' weapons secretly, but asks permission to do so to hearten the Greeks, Achilles and granted them. No misappropriation (including the theft of weapons is something very serious, and no Homeric warrior would do, especially would not do Patroclus to Achilles).

Agamemnon and Menelaus, apart from the fact that there are two barrels of lard (and fortunately that tradition spoke of the "blond Menelaus, the man no less than for its beauty and so on. Etc.") Each have at least thirty more than Achilles. And two people are rude and smelly, devoid of any decoration. Now, I is not that nice Agamemnon (indeed, as a character I never loved too, for that matter: it is arrogant, angry, overbearing). But from here to make an old trippone there runs cabbage. It is not just a cosmetic issue, of course. No, the fact is that all these men, in Homer's world, have made the warrior ethic of honor, respect, even in contention for greatness and challenge, and all this in the film is completely cleared to make them become troglodytes, and it shows by how they behave: that is to say they did not understand a damn about them, and the Iliad in general. In the Iliad Agamemnon, Achilles to return to battle, send an embassy with controfiocchi formed by Ajax, Odysseus and the old Phoenix, then he apologizes, he sends "gifts infinite" and Briseis returns, ensuring the honor of his not to have touched. In the film says, yes, "I have not touched," but immediately adds: "I have given to the troops" (!!!) And there is no embassy, because Achilles is brave to save yourself the maiden from the clutches of soldiers. However much troglodyte even Achilles, quest'accolita of Lords, which gives sganassoni men and women (including Briseis), turn pea in the wind (but not the frame, whether fortunately or unfortunately I do not know, not having been able to assess a person ) in front of the priestesses of Apollo, makes private orgy while all the others go into battle, and we miss just burps, but maybe he did and I missed it. Now, I wonder, director and screenwriter of this movie know the difference between "anger" and "zoticaggine? To do so fierce he was, the poor Achilles, was his need to turn it into an orang-utan?

Briseis is promoted to the rank of the female protagonist, and - the field as priestess of Apollo - incorporates within itself three people: the priest of Apollo Crise, Criseide her daughter (now useless, since there is crisis and nobody wants to claim), and herself. Maybe that's why there is no trace of the plague that is striking the Achaean camp, in the film, as was the case at the beginning of the Iliad as a result of prayer to his god Crise insulted by Agamemnon. Here, no fever, except three or four died of disease around the horse left at the end that I did not understand what they were doing there or who had put them there.

Elena I said, from a beautiful and adorable as he was a traitor (which after the war he returned to Sparta with Menelaus overjoyed) poor data is transformed into a sixteen year old bride in an old wineskin, who discovers love with Paris and it stays with him until the end, sharing the grief of the Trojan women heroically.
hilarious, however, the initial dialogue with him, that in Sparta salt to her room to seduce her:
"No, I do not want."
"Last night did not you say so."
"Last night was a mistake."
"And the other day?"
"I made many mistakes in these days"
And we complain about how the poor states Orlandino? Come on ... how do you play on an exchange like that seriously? I think it is already so that is not laughed saying those jokes ... I is not sorry, however, Orlando Bloom in the role of Paris, I must admit. Cut enough for the character, apart from the idiotic script.

We want to talk about Ajax? At times I get a shot when I see it: if Achilles seems he is an orangutan spit King Kong. He, the most noble, dignified and tragic heroes of the Achaeans, looks like a character from Planet of the Apes. When the fights seem to see the final of the U.S. Kogan wrestling, not to mention the fact that it is killed by Hector. But it is not the only one with this unexpected departure, since Menelaus died, Agamemnon is killed by Briseis, and so there is more to anyone, and in one shot this film sends unemployed block all the Greek tragedies. Farewell Oresteia of Aeschylus, with the chain of blood in the house of Atreus, Agamemnon killed his wife and then killed in turn by his son, then in turn chased by the Furies ... and all at the hands of a Briseiduccia any, that generations of neutralizes itself stories about guilt and justice. And Ajax, being killed by Hector, will not commit suicide for the trial of arms, then goodbye Sophocles and reflections on the loneliness of the hero. How not to laugh out loud, in fact, opposite the scene of Achilles heel pierced by an arrow and so dying, crying out "Peace, peace ..."? And yet, not saved the other hand, in this film, Andromache and Astyanax, through a secret passage that leads them out of Troy in flames? I must say here that I was almost glad, because I always come to the Magone said on the tradition, which ended the slave of Neoptolemus Andromache (for the record that he is the son of Achilles, not a soldier, as in "Troy") and Astyanax was thrown from the walls and smashed against the rocks always Neoptolemus, lest it become as strong as his father Hector. I had always made her heart sink the genocide of the Trojans after the fall of the city, the way he recounts, for example, Euripides. But here the good guys are saved, hooray! At one point I confess to having hoped that the Trojans should win, because I always cheered for them, and burned the horse outside the walls by Roasted occupants (sin only for Sean Bean, who is so cute, and that he gets along decently in the movie).

The sons of Priam, who happened to? I was going to call "Chi l'ha visto?" because in the film are only two, Hector and Paris, rather than the fifty Homeric. I understand that fifty is a little 'bit, especially since the film is nowhere to Hecuba, that alone has made 19 ... but in short, a cross between 2 and 50 there must be, right? And sacrificed Polyxena on the tomb of Achilles? And Cassandra? Missing.

The encounter between Hector and Andromache Scee at the gates? Practically quashed: no words of love, nothing "you are to me father, mother, brother and husband ", no" I care about anyone in the world than you, my bride "Of course not .... She cries, the two say goodbye, he reminds her of the secret passage and Astyanax starts crying in the middle for no reason, and also gives a little 'annoyance. No trace of the embrace of his father and little scared because you see waving "terrible" the crest on his helmet at him, smile and quiet of the two parents, and Hector, who takes off his helmet and dribbles the baby in her arms and lifts him to heaven, and blessed him, praying to the gods that one day someone says, "It is much stronger than the father." All gone. On the other hand appears Elena from a distance, and Ettore her a last look before going to die (ah, by the way, during the duel with Achilles before his death the poor man stumbles, falling, in the only stone visible within a radius of three kilometers).

Aeneas, who in the Iliad is already one of the greatest champions Trojans, here is a brief appearance at the end and will have a maximum of fifteen years, bringing with them the father who seems more his father's great grandfather, son and of course without Ascanio given the young age. Paris asks, in the heat of the moment: "What's your name?". He said, "Aeneas". Laugh of the public. I understand the excitement, but Paris would have to recognize as they were close relatives, and among other things as Creusa, wife of Aeneas, was his sister. But oh well, you will be distracted, and then here Creusa is absent, as was said, fallen in the massacre of the children of Priam made by Petersen (but fierce Achilles!). "I entrust to you the sword of Troy," he says solemnly Paris (never knew of a sword of Troy, but maybe I missed): "As long as in the hands of a Trojan horse, Troy will live." Amen, and one day start Aeneas from Troy, the star will be born in Rome.

The most important and solemn scene with Priam goes to Achilles' tent to ask for Hector's body? I'm sorry, but even here the skill of Peter O'Toole does not save us. The old man comes in tenduccia hooded hero, Achilles asks: "Who are you?" He said, "Priam!" Solemn pause, filled by the laughter of the nearby high school choral students. We arrive at the crucial moment, one in which the old king of Troy in the Iliad Achilles asks the return of Hector's body, recalling the common destiny of death of men, reminding him that he has a father, Peleus, who will suffer for his son away to his death in battle, which will remain only at the mercy of the neighbors because Achilles will not return to defend it. Achilles is moved, cry, cry together both thinking the one to Hector, the other to Peleus, and Achilles decides to grant Priam. This is in Homer. But here: surprise! Peleus is dead, says Priam. "I knew your father," said the old king, in the same tone of Colonel Tom Cruise in Top Gun, and it seems just about to add: "We were in Vietnam together." But no Vietnam, the gist is that Pele is the luckiest of Priam, why has not seen since the deaths of his sons died before him. But can you? Besides, think about it, you can: if the mother of Achilles Thetis, who is a goddess, can have as furrows and wrinkles sixty years, his father Peleus, who was a mere man may very well already be dead ... However, Priam goes home with her son's body and in addition released Briseis, who greets him with a touching, "Uncle!"

And I close this part with a notation on places and times. Short, but a bit 'of decency here! The royal Trojan that seems furnished by a Turkish Mistress, Paris and Helen who go around with their parasols, the palace of Sparta and populated by odalisques Janissaries, costumes that seem made for the carnival of Viareggio, tents Achaean reminiscent of the huts of pygmies, the ship of Agamemnon, in contrast, turns into a big-tent caravan equipped all diadems of solid gold on the forehead of every laundress Troy ... the Trojan War and how long? Mah .. yes and no two weeks, maximum twenty ... More than ten years of Homer: Here you solve all dall'antefatto epilogue, in a jiffy. And sorry if it is little.

For now I close with just the little things, but as soon as I step on to more serious ...

And this is but the second comment ...

What do you think of "Troy" - Part II
said a little 'more seriously

So, let's talk about' things more serious, because we do not think that the stench in the nose and we're here to do the fleas in "Troy" just for the sake of us snobbish airs slickers.
is clear that no one expected that a director struggling with a so vast and mythical epic tradition would begin to keep up with details to satisfy the insatiable taste of experts on the subject. Of course, there is a limit to everything, even the freedom of composition: if one makes a film about Christopher Columbus is expected that at least the protagonist discovers America and Norway, and it must be said that with "Troy" are almost at this level, because the havoc done by Petersen definitely goes beyond the pessimistic predictions. All we need is to end the war, the Trojans should win ... And I do not think that is enough to spring up the backside to write "freely inspired by the Iliad" in the credits. If I say that I freely inspired by the life of Hitler I certainly did not for this approval to turn it into a lamb philanthropist.

Yet the point is not, in my opinion.
That is, it could be that too, but not in the sense that one is going in and counting the discrepancies between "Troy" and the Iliad with the punctuality of the stern schoolmaster, enjoying every blue and red cross marked next to the blunders. Personally, indeed, I must say that struck me - when I read - the director's decision not to introduce the gods in history. An interesting choice and courageous, I thought, because in fact the presence of the gods in Homer is often a way to explain and describe the "outside" impulses and psychological processes that take place in the soul of men and would be exciting to see how the film had made it instead. Really would be "more realistic", to work seriously.
But it seems to me that "Troy" is exactly the opposite of a realistic film, in spite of what the writers have said, that those reasons have justified the considerable freedom that have been taken.

then someone should be a good time to take the trouble to explain to the filmmakers of Hollywood (which incidentally are very good at packaging film fun, and maybe our barbosissimi masters of cinema learn from them how to produce films less soporific. ..) should, I said, Petersen and company to explain that if si incaponiscono a ficcare con l'imbuto qualsiasi storia gli capiti a tiro nello schema precotto del genere (avventuroso/drammatico/thriller ecc...), senza fare un minimo sforzo di riflessione sulle motivazioni REALI che muovono l'agire dei personaggi, alla fine succederà sempre quello che in effetti succede (e succede sempre di più da un po' di tempo a questa parte, mi pare) nei loro film, e cioè che questi sono tutti uguali, e sembrano tutti di plastica, e alla fine risultano sempre più noiosi, perché ti propinano sempre la stessa solfa e la stessa minestra riscaldata. E, a parte la noia, risultano tutti assolutamente improbabili e lontani anni luce dalla realtà. Cattivi che più cattivi di così non si può, good so angelic to rot your teeth regularly duels solving all equal when it seems frighteningly good first and then succumb to win a second miracle before being massacred by the poor (and in which the villain left standing even if the pass over a steamroller, and regularly before he died really gets up one last time when the good turns her shoulders in order to receive the final blow to the great satisfaction of the public), are crucial to the unfolding of history born of intuition generated by the case (see Ulysses comes to mind when the idea of watching a horse soldier carving a wooden horse for his son, and do not tell me that is not pathetic), fierce warriors (Achilles), which softened and become peace through the love of sweet girls (Briseis) who know how to properly match the puissance of the beloved or the bank account with their virtue intact and crystalline, the good always triumphs and the innocent who invariably saved everyone (see Andromache and Astyanax fleeing from Troy) in order to reassure the viewer that we are undoubtedly in the best of possible worlds and the crime does not pay for the bad guys are getting a bad end (see Agamemnon made Briseis out and tells Menelaus not miss him, so he learns to traumatize his size with a thin, unhappy girl, as Elena), and so forth, I think I have exemplified enough.

Well, not so much the fact that "Troy" has taken away everything that was inside the Iliad that we take it really, but rather because it has only removed to put in place the load of a tire mixed shell with no content, which has turned one of the most moving and profound stories of the world in the usual rigmarole rhetoric of honor and love and war and blah blah blah, du 'balls, doctor, du' balls ... All right, so that the box office is guaranteed, but I ask myself, get tired sooner or later also be seen pouring out of the audience the same thing in a thousand different sauces, and it would eventually happen to these guys is wondering why some European films (only some, not all, for goodness sake!) tell the truth much better than theirs, so much so that they often are, overseas, the first to learn it in slow motion to understand where is the secret?

What the hell was the need to go tell the Trojan War dall'antefatto epilogue, making the soup with the abduction of Helen, the wooden horse, the achievements of Agamemnon, the temper of Achilles, the patriotism of Hector ("God, Country and Family", a perfect spot in the film, expressly said: "Three things I learned: to respect the gods, to love his wife and defend the homeland"), what need was there, I said, bring us everything and more invent what is not there, as if not enough material available, and all this without asking the slightest problem on the real intentions that moved the Homeric text?
Homer does not describe all the Trojan War, but only one episode that occurs in the tenth year of it, what the center is the wrath of Achilles. And on this episode plays its story and its reflection, making a unified and cohesive, with a deep sense. Not a soup made with many ingredients and no flavor.
did not need me to say it myself, anyway. Aristotle has already written a lot 'of time before me, in his "Poetics", explaining why Homer was greater than all the others They told the epic without selecting, playing endless loops of long events without a sense of unity:
"How, then, in the other imitative practices unitary imitation is that of a single object, so too must the story, because it is the imitation of action, the action is unique and complete set, and that the parties of the facts are so interrelated that, transposed or less a part of the whole it would be changed and altered "(51a)
And again
" How to imitate narrative in verse, is clear that the stories you have to compose as the tragedies in dramatic fashion, around a single whole and complete action, which has a beginning, half and an end, because it confers the pleasure that is just like a single whole animal , the compositions should not be similar to historical treatment, in which it is bound to be made public exposure of an action but a period of time : all the facts in it have happened to one or more persons, each of which is with others in a casual relationship. (...) But the most part, we can say, poets working well. Therefore, as we have said, even in this Homer must look wonderful in comparison to the others for not having tried to represent the entire war, even if it had a beginning and an end, the story would have been too big and not embrace a look, or, even measured in size, for the intricate variety (59th)

Is that really annoyed me in this film about the Trojan War: the complete ease with which the subject has drawn freely, be treated without the slightest scruple, without taking the slightest trouble to ask if there was even a reference in the text means something good to think about and maybe to repeat or reconsider - for charity - with every right to rewrite it with a look modern. I bothered the gratuity of some changes made for the sake of doing them, in search of the special effect or increased adhesion to pre-established models of Hollywood (Which still follows the doctrine of division into genres).
It is therefore not made a film about Homer's world, but has adapted the Homeric world of the film, and I think there's a huge difference.
result, Priam, who talks like Colonel Rambo Trapman, Achilles seems that Mel Gibson in "Lethal Weapon", Ulysses seems the Egyptologist genialoide of "Stargate". The women then do not talk about: there was one with a little 'of pall ... um ... Personality: sweet and concerned about his wife Andromache, Helen, the unhappy traitor, the virtuous maiden Briseis harping on and off ...

What was the need to make this meatloaf, with so much waste of resources, unable to say even one-tenth that something so simple and at the same time that total by Homer? And that is that the Iliad is the story of growth, and a struggle. It is the story of one man, Achilles, who desperately refuses the idea of death, and with all his strength rebels condemned to the fate that you know, who refuses to be like everyone else and try searching for the glory of becoming different and higher, and immortal, which reacts with a blinding pain at the death of my dear companion and tries to find a comfort killing the person who killed another, and inflicting pain on others, as if by that he could change his destiny, the incumbent to all men. It is the story of a man who in the end, however, desperate and defeated, accepts crying Priam with the idea of death, including accepting the common destiny of being like the enemy he killed, and acceptance becomes very large, and becomes, for this reason, most human and tragic and triumphant than ever before.
These are the words addressed to Priam that Achilles, having "enjoyed western, give him back before the body of his son:

" Wretch, how many misfortunes have endured in the soul!
How dared come only to ships of the Achaeans,
before the eyes of a man who killed you
many brave sons? really have a heart of iron.
But come on, sit on this seat
and although anxious, let the pain
lie in the depths of the soul; there is no utility in the frozen tears. This
the gods have spun for miserable mortals
live in suffering, they, however, are immune from the pain.
Two great pitchers are on the threshold of Zeus, full
giving of gifts, one of the evils and the other assets. Who
Zeus, lord of lightning, it shall, after being mixed,
he now meets an accident, now a fortune, but who gives only
woes, makes a miserable
insatiable hunger haunts him God on earth, and wanders
without honor or the gods or by men. So
to Peleus's Concert beautiful gifts, from birth;
exceeded all men of wealth and fortune,
was lord of the Myrmidons, and although it was deadly,
gave him to marry a goddess. But God also gave him
misfortune, because he was born, in his palace, a race
of children born to reign, but only gave birth to a son, the short
destiny, and I can not take care of him while
aging because they are very far from home,
here in Troy, causing misery to you and your children.
And we've heard that too, old, once,
were happy, tell us that, in the territory over which restricts
Lesbos, home of Macarius, and below, Phrygia and the boundless Hellespont
, you, old man , were superior to all,
for wealth and children. But when I send this heavenly disaster,
always battles and massacres around your city. Be strong, do not distress
and relentless in our hearts, you will not get anything,
crying your child, you will not revive, and maybe you
suffer some other misfortune. "

(Iliad, XXIV, 518-551)

The Iliad is this and many other stories ... and the good (or bad) this movie is that at certain points the director seems to have even guessed, but then it all different ways and out of place and every step gives easy to compromise with the need for the box office with such requests, by forcing the characters of personalities, values that can not be because basically not interested at all represent, the interests represented his, and indeed, maybe they were at least his own: those are just trivial and bland rhetoric of moralism and cheap they do not believe now no one, and the first to him.

's why I did not like "Troy": not for the endless stream of nonsense which has upset the Homeric tale, not for the missing children of Priam and Cassandra that there are no arrows and inconsistencies in beads and historical .
But because it does not understand the value. He has not even tried to understand it.

Friday, May 28, 2004

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Inconsistencies

Hello!
here that I laughed when I thought to create a list of the inconsistencies of Troy.
I begin. Then as I reported to the Insert ...
I ask only a courtesy as I would like to make a list you can send me in pvt ewyn@yahoo.com, so 'the add ...

Inconsistencies

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Inconsistencies Classics

The Trojan War lasted ten years;

Priam 50 not only two children;

Neoptolemus is the son of Achilles

Briseis is the nephew of Priam and even a priestess of Apollo;

Achilles 'mother is a goddess and is eternally young (and beautiful);

Patroclus is Achilles' cousin, Patroclus

is the lover of Achilles

Patroclus is the mentor of Achilles, not vice versa, and thus is older, not younger;

Patroclus does not steal the weapons of Achilles, but he asks to borrow because the Greeks are about to be hurled into the sea;

Astyanax, Ettore's son, is thrown down the walls of Troy by Neoptolemus, for fear that growing up can become stronger than his father and then avenge the death

Andromache (Hector's wife) does not flee, but is enslaved by Neoptolemus;

Menelaus and Agamemnon in Troy do not die;

Elena is brought back to Sparta

Paris dies but I do not remember ... someone like you remember?

Hector kills Ajax: Ajax commits suicide because he had obtained the weapons of Achilles

Enea is the cousin of Paris, and one of the best warriors Trojans impossible that Paris did not know him;

Achilles dies before the end of the war and does not go to Troy

Historical Inconsistencies
1. Belly dancers do not belong 'to it in Sparta Troy
2. The tortoise was invented by the Romans;
3. Archers Assyrian;
5. The dishes are of the XIV / XVII century;
6. ;
Geographical Inconsistencies
1. Mycenae and Sparta are two delightful seaside towns
Inconsistencies Architectural
1. The doors have no wickets service Every time opening those mastodons?

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Troy - by Venu

First of all I apologize Venu: The first comment was his.
I do not know how I managed to forget it.
I ask forgiveness. I would like to highlight
Moreover, because it is a positive comment and I never give up being objective ...
If something does not like me can enjoy with others .. I would like here you could put all our comments ...

Troy

By Venue - I went to see troy .... I have just returned home ...... ignoring the diversity of films from the Homeric text ...... I tell you that the film is amazing .......... Pitt's Achilles is a formidable ..... (I remind you who is the guest of honor ... and I think that I got to have at least one of the actors' interpretations of 'Interview with the Vampire' ... in fact, cele ... I do not remember if I've put too Banderas - Zorro in my guests, but there too) ... really left me stunned .... Patroclus and the actor who plays .... slashabilissimo is with pitt .... are a great pairing ... eric bana hector is also a formidable and orlando he is a great Paris ... credibilissimi are all ... I even cried in the scene of Priam and Achilles ...... I cried like a fountain ..... I will come to see him and I will take the DVD ...... really ...... much pleasure to those who go to see it ... Loll ... you were the one who was upset and did not want to go .... listen ... I am a lover of the Homeric texts ... but the film is made Strabo .... without American ........ with the care of the customs of the times of Homer really amazing ... well as the soundtrack to this topic ..... insommma .... really to be seen ..... to enjoy ...... the euro is spent ... and to think that if I went I spent half of Monday .... but I went tonight and I am glad I did ......
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ps sorry for his manic ... but I'm excited ..... towards the end of the movie I had come a slight asthma attack ..... I kicked and I resisted ..... I wanted to get to the end of the film .... then I know the maritigno theater manager and asked him if he takes the smallest bill I've seen and I have indicated .... told me tieneeeeeeeeee ... must pick it up when the movie arrives at the last day of programmazioneeeeeeeeeee ............
cheggiornata .......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go and see .... you'll like ... Venu word ...........

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TROY - By ENA

This is rather a commentary by Ena.

Troy - By Ena

Just out of the cinema I wanted to * die *, I just say that I sent to this sms lau "Give me that f *** ing sword of Troy I throw out as Ajax! "

Looking back with a cool head, I say that the script is horrible and ridiculous with all the trivial Ash propina. I do not know if the pearl of the pearls and the proposal of bucolic escape of Paris to Helen, or "is not an insult to say that a dead man is dead ..." "What is this?" Priam's in front of the horse or you have given me the peace of the dying Achilles (I got the impression that she would give him anything, but never mind)

At times I laughed like crazy, or maybe I laughed to keep from crying: from Agamemnon which reunites the famous ports of Greece and Sparta and Mycenae, known to be charming places bathing, and then Ajax Hammer of Thor Achilles with his acrobatics, belly dancers in Sparta, Troy looks like a mix between Babylon and Egypt of the Pharaohs, and then all talk of "home", but which country??

That said, the actors, poor things, do what they can with this script:
Bean is very good (but the voice that would have saddled the dubbing does not convince me) ok, I'm * extremely * biased, but I thought it was very convincing and subtle seduction (as well as sexy fear)

Orlando, Puccio my beloved in the first part merely making grimace and frown, then grows with the character or perhaps because of the bow and arrows, who sa? In his defense I must say that are affected the most absurd of all the jokes. Yes, very nice view, I would have liked to see more, because otherwise withstand such torment?

Bana who, luckily, has the most well-characterized, it seemed really good, did not know him as an actor, so I made a wonderful impression, virile, compassionate at the same time (and chest!)

Peter O'Toole, I do not know, I love it since I was 9 years and will continue to love him, but, apart from the fact that the character of Priam is absolutely incomprehensible at times it seemed that he did not know quite what he was doing or where you found (which is also plausible, I doubt they knew that many on that set)

Pitt, we must talk about it? Ok, contracted jaw constantly alternating staring thoughtfully-muscles to "dance like anvedi Nandro (lone)" I do not think he had the charisma to carry the film on his shoulders (the physique du role, there is, too, and all too performed)

The female characters are completely flat, the maximum expression of the personality crying shame because the material to make them more interested they would have had.

Speaking of the movie itself, aesthetically I was not excited.
There are some beautiful scenes, like the night battle and the death of Patroclus, the duel between Achilles and Hector (although I can never forget ETTOREEEE! and hope that someone from the walls answered him with a beautiful raspberry alla romana)
Others are exciting: the dressing before the duel, the supplication of Priam to Achilles Achilles, in front of the corpse of Hector, says, "I'll see you soon, brother." On the other hand I found that chilling the fall of Troy is all a "BRISEIDEEE PARIDEEE ... ... ... PARIDEE Briseis" (and even there I * asked * to someone if they came out screaming "PAAAATROCLOOOOO).

The sets and costumes I was not convinced at all: they seemed "the festival's all a bit '" and did not contribute at all to make the whole more credible, far from it.

I did not expect to see a film version of the Iliad, I know that film has its own needs and times, I knew the final would be Paride_ed_Elena_che_se_vanno_ per_la manina_verso_il_tramonto.
I was prepared well, but I wonder why, if the stated intention was to make the most realistic and present together, they have ignored any knowledge, let alone the archaeological and literary, but even geographical available?
Why, if they wanted to make a story of business and human passions, have come pouring out instead for a meatloaf in which escape of all the motivations of the characters and everything happens too fast to be believable?
The idea that I have is that neither the writer nor the director had no idea where to end up, so the result is an epic waste of material and human resources.

However this summer, all shouting "ETTOREEEEE!" On the beaches of Mycenae. O Sparta. And 'the latest trend.

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Troy - TROY by Ewyn

This is my comment to Troy. Copied from my Lj

ewyn .

I hope you all can have fun adding your comments ...

Troy

So where to start?
begin by saying that I will not speak of the massacre of the Iliad, or the Aeneid, neither the Odyssey nor the whole of what is considered the greek-roman mythology.
Let us not comment on these aspects because it is a Hollywood film, and then all that is "culture" we can forget it. Moreover, in the end credits it says "loosely based"? So we should not expect anything.
Well, the classics, we put them aside.

second point: the historical veracity. Again, this is forgotten because Petersen said as "we have no information of that historical period, so it was pointless to do research."
Giusto, archaeologists are a race with extinction and then contradict themselves ... also deleted the historical inconsistencies.

So I sit in the chair laying down its arms and sharp entry I am going to see a beautiful love story, war, glory and human perfidy.

The first thing I see are the eyes of Orli (okay now I can make a clarification? If you do not know since there Vig and Harrison 'Rims. Period. There is no issue.)
Then Orli shirtless.
Then burst out laughing. In the midst of passionate scene in which Paris calls Helen to flee with him.
could not believe it: I laughed that the interpretation of Orlando. But I should take back
: interpretation? Which interpretation?
Please know that Mr. Bloom will never read these lines, but if they become aware that she could confirm it was the whole time of the shooting at the home of Cele and then the screen is not she??

a disaster, I do not know if this is the best that Orlando Petersen had available but did not seem (in Ned Kelly, in Pirates of The Caribbean and Black Hawk Down) that Orlando went like 'disgustingly bad ...

Anyway, this scene in the movie and then 'was a disaster ... The plot leaked from practically all sides. If someone can explain like the Parthian Greeks to arrive the day after the arrival of Hector, Paris and Helen, having to gather and having to equip an army (and that army!) Well offer him a margarita.
what about the proposed "Two hearts and a hut of Paris to Helen? From
sbellicarsi. It seems that an old Teti and should be a goddess? Goddess??
And Briseis to Achilles before deburring, then dropped out to avenge Patroclus, then enters the horse only to save, then die like a fool. Before
want the glory, then thinks better of it, then returns idea ... Our
ff are more logical ...
And Paris? Legolas practically deaf and dumb ... but you do not feel Briseis?? The only

what you save and 'the backside of that Pitt is not even because his is a stand ...
A little 'I would say little.

should also give a dictionary to scenaggiatore: the poor Ulysses
almost past its time to say "I will talk about the 'I' (referring to Achilles).

However, something must be saved: except for a little 'stiffness I liked Eric Bana. His Hector was almost acceptable. Excluding, of course the scene with Elena before opening the doors ... about consistency with the classics we put aside the historical as well, the architectural one?? Also, of course. Because in those immense doors there is no 'trace of wickets for the transition (Peter my darling where are you ..? Ah the gates of the Hornburg ...).

Another thing to all the different congruences we have left aside, we must also add the geographical congruence ... Sparta like the sea, the rivers of Trojan ... but I will stop here.

Ah yes, Sean Bean, Peter O'Toole and Brad Pitt: Well the director did not do too bad with them ... in the sense that as serious professionals are just a bit 'lost their marbles on the screen and not make the perfect figure of the other morons .. But I fear that is due to the fact that, probably, from time to time, have made their head ..
say that I was too bad??

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I HAVE SEEN ... ... OR: THE CURSE OF THE HEEL OF ACHILLES - by Tauri

I wanted the first comment was that Taura ... as it was in ML ...
Thanks Twin. - Ewyn

I HAVE SEEN TROY ..

... OR:

THE CURSE OF THE ACHILLES HEEL OF

I never regret having spent so much money ... cmq. now telling the whole story and to sign up to the end so you are warned!!

Achille-Pitt (who must have studied the sacred fight with Ken Nanto school !!!!! Hit the fighting techniques unlined) has set up a fisicaccio fear and learn to fight (and who knows what else * _ *) to beautiful doll his cousin Patroclus ^ _ ^

Meanwhile Paris-Orly, in Sparta, it is the mussel-Helen and convinces her to elope with him to Troy.

Nos: !!!!!!!!!!! I have never been so ashamed Orly is pucciosissimo, says dog, it really scared, finamai the mussel is good!! Ç_ç

Then Odysseus-Bean goes to Achilles and convince him to call in the name of Greece (which at the time did not exist as a state national, but here it seems entirely dominated by Agamemnon !!!!!) to go to Troy to resume a mussel!

Bean is a cool !!!!!!

Meanwhile, Orly, mussels and Hector-Bana (congratulations to him too ^ _ ^ very good ^ _ ^) arrive at Troy, where Priam fulminatissimo O'Toole welcomes them (poor guy, he, who made Lawrence of Arabia, reduced cosìç_ç).

The next day came the Greeks and stick with a system that will invent a thousand years after the Romans ... a skirmish in which Briseis is kidnapped, of which now falls in love with Pitt as a calf ... Cassandra and Polyxena obviously do not exist ^ _-

War, one that lasts 10 years, just to understand, is resolved in 15 days ... Paris challenges Menelaus, and just as it is to triumph is in turn killed by Hector, brother this whole mess will not see him much he loves him .. then fighting under the walls where he died-_-Ajax, Achilles retired to his tent because it's damn Briseis Agamemnon, Patroclus takes Achilles' weapons and is killed by Hector, in turn, killed after 5 minutes, Achilles drags the body around ... Priam goes to Achilles to beg that makes the body and, as surplus, including Briseis, which appears to be the nephew of Priam ...

I forgot to Orly!! But disappears after the first hour for the entire second !!!!!

funeral of Hector, Trojan Horse (since there was no Cassandra, his lines he recites Paris >_\u0026lt;... Pitt running everywhere in search of his Briseis, who meanwhile killed Agamemnon (and that poor Clytemnestra home sharpening the ax ????)... all flee in the basement ... And here's the famous scene of the Sword of Troy, Paris relies on a guy who stopped on the street and asking: "Who are you?" "Aeneas" (ie, Aeneas was one of the principles and here it seems ... that a refugee is recognized only by the fact that the father in the shoulder ...). Enea grabs the sword and to Rome, where of course in turn will be taken to Britania and tatatata: The Sword in the Stone (sorry for the digression but I saw the trailer for King Artur ^ _-)

Paris back then, Pitt hits the heel in the notorious (even if you do not understand why ...) and three times in the chest (same, equal to the end of Boromir ^ _-) and flees with Briseis. So the income of those who prejudice and should not be added, we select these two, Helen, Andromache and her son !!!!!! Arghhh !!!!!!!

Wonderful ending!! Sean Bean soddisfatissimo one that lights the funeral pyre of Achilles! Finally a film that remains alive until the end! May not know that the journey home will luuungooo luuungooo ^ _ ^

Finish.

ps Pitt wore a leather armor will not tell you if the laughter when it slipped

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